True Confessions

November 26, 2007 at 4:32 pm 14 comments

This is where I confess a condition that may be at odds with In Rare Form orthodoxy- ambivalence about the candidacy of one Willard Mitt Romney. Despite a strong interest in the goings-on in the Romney campaign, I could not say that I was firmly in Camp Mitt until very recently.

I have been following Mitt for a while. I used to contribute to a now-dormant blog called Right Wing Pundit. I posted occasionally about the possibility of a Romney campaign (see here).  I speculated about the impact of his faith on the campaign and potential running mates. As I reviewed those posts I noticed that I never claimed to support Mitt exclusively. Why is this?

 I can’t answer the question definitively. I think I placed an extra weight on Romney based on his faith, a kind of reverse religious discrimination, and this in spite of all of his previous accomplishments. I consider myself a conservative, and think that classification is actually more important than that of Republican. I think I was concerned that Mitt might not be conservative enough.

I was wrong. Occasionally I read or hear a comment by someone who is LDS and I get the sense that their opposition to Romney is based solely on their desire to stand independent from the “Mormon Candidate,” and not due to any real concerns with him as a candidate. None of their concerns holds convincing weight. Ultimately the decision about who I support has to be based on picking the person who I think will best govern this nation.

So I declare myself with Mitt, but I want to know who doesn’t. Who is your candidate? Why do you support them? What is the key issue for you in this campaign? It’s time to hear confession.

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  • 1. Sportsattitude  |  November 26, 2007 at 4:52 pm

    Confession. When George Bush’s son and Albert Gore were the only two people the two “major” parties could come up with for presidential candidates back in the day, that was when I tuned out national politics. Heck, I used to go vote in state primaries in “off-election” years when the only offices being contested were local township/municipal supervisor roles. I took my responsibility to vote in EVERY election, regardless of the time or year, local or national, very seriously. I used to follow election night coverage when national races were being held and was fascinated by the process of electing officials. Yet, the combination of getting older, getting more jaded…and Bush-Gore…pushed me over the cliff into the sea of “who cares.” I will admit to doing some Mitt research since I started becoming a fan of IRF. Everyone says each candidate flip-flops on certain issues so we toss that out as a determination of who is most worthy…I’ve heard that about Mitt and everyone else at one time or another. I do find when I hear his name mentioned the word “Mormon” also comes right on its heels. I don’t know if Mitt is worthy of my jumping back into the fray of caring about the presidential election or not, but I will say IRF has at least left me open to the possibility that there may be at least one candidate out there who might actually be worthy of my vote, regardless of his religion. End of confession.

  • 2. pammyshep  |  November 26, 2007 at 6:26 pm

    I make no confession as I’ve never been shy about my political views… I’m a Dem. Yup, a Mormon who is a Dem. We’re a rare breed and I’m comfortable with my blue-bloodedness. Right now I’m torn between Hilary and Obama but no matter who gets the Democratic nomination, you can bet your fanny I’ll be voting for them.

  • 3. lemare  |  November 26, 2007 at 7:07 pm

    Pammy, what are issues are the most important to you?

  • 4. jdon  |  November 26, 2007 at 7:53 pm

    I must admit that I will vote for anyone who opposed Hillary Clinton. Whether thats Obama or Mitt or Colonel Sanders, it doesnt matter to me. Anyone but Hillary.

  • 5. pammyshep  |  November 26, 2007 at 7:57 pm

    Education is a top priority (No Child Left Behind is a joke) as well as health care.

  • 6. Meldred  |  November 26, 2007 at 8:41 pm

    I like Ron Paul. You don’t have to like him, but I like him. This is why:

    He voted against the Iraq war.
    He upholds the Constitution.
    He is a libertarian. Ezra Taft Benson was a libertarian. I like libertarians. Libertarians believe in freedom.
    He is against abortion. As a Doctor he delivered over 4000 babies.
    He wants to get rid of the Fed. He understands that inflation is a hidden tax. He wants to get back on the gold standard.

    I wanted to like Romney because of the “brother” solidarity, but by studying the candidates, I find that Paul actually believes in the same things that the likes of Presidents Benson, Smith(multiple Smiths), McKay, Kimball (the list goes on) believed.

    Plus, I think it’s time for a big change. Everyone else says the same thing, and so the same thing happens. Someone once said that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. So I’m up for a change.

  • 7. jdon  |  November 26, 2007 at 9:08 pm

    Does it bother anyone else that Ron Paul’s campaign accepts cash from the Nazi party? I find myself to be libertarian on most issues, but I dont think I can find common ground with the people that killed Anne Frank!
    P.S. I’d still take RP over Hillary!

  • 8. lemare  |  November 26, 2007 at 11:24 pm

    The reason I like Mitt has nothing to do with solidarity (‘twould be an incredibly ignorant reason to vote for a candidate). My hot point topic is the economy. Basically Uncle Sam, on a daily basis, bends me over and spanks me. I have no dependents and no mortgage (and since I live in the Bay Area, I never will).

    Today at work, someone was lamenting the fact that we can’t manufacture our merchandise (for the most part) in the US. The reason is minimum wage laws and unions…. Both of them sound good at first look, but the unintended consequence is that it is cheaper in India, it’s cheaper in China. And while I don’t like it, as a business person, I support that we do it. You owe it to the shareholders to be a profitable organization. When big companies make money, everyone wins.

    Also, I’ve been in big business long enough that I’ve realized how hard it is to lead a lean and nimble organization. Every CEO TALKS about cutting operating expenses, but how many successfully do that, while growing an organization?

    I worked for one of the largest companies in the world, and it reorganized every 6 months in a futile attempt to cut OPEX. Never really worked. They’re still up to the same old tricks. So when I see someone like Mitt, who has taken companies (or olympic games) from obscurity (or the brink of disaster) and grown them, turned a profit, and organized it more efficiently (PROFITABLY), I realize what a rare trait this is. Most CEO’s and no Government Execs cannot boast of such skills and successes.

    So I want Mitt because I want him to approach this massive, bloated government like failing organization. I want him to TRIM THE FAT. Consolidate redundancies, eliminate offices and positions, and reduce taxes (which will increase spending and investing, both good for the economy). And the increased revenue from the good economy, and the reduced spending from the reduced governmental bloat, and THAT can be used toward things like education, national security, healthcare, and all the other issues plaguing us.

    And the FIRST step in healthcare, IMHO, is TORT REFORM. With $100MM malpractice settlements, doctors and hospitals HAVE to charge and arm and a leg, to cover their insurance. After that, private insurance should be more accessible and less expensive, but I do not want to see my healthcare managed by the same people who run the DMV and the TSA.

    This is a good discussion!

  • 9. mikel  |  November 26, 2007 at 11:26 pm

    So, the only part that makes RP significantly different than all the others is that he has delivered babies and wants to get rid of the Fed. On the babies, I can’t argue there. I guess in times like these you need someone in the White House who can handle the forceps. Just the other day, I saw Bush on the news totally clueless with a breach delivery. On issues of monetary policy, he’s just about 30 years removed from macroeconomic thought. Say what you will about the Fed, but from Volcker on we are in a period known as the great moderation. Should he ever be president, I’ll rest easy at night knowing that the Constitution created a system of checks and balances and that nothing he wants will ever get passed.

    As for his fiscal beliefs Hermana Mia, as he has become “mainstream” he’s picked up another mainstream skill: really bending the facts. His fiscal policy comes far short of his stated goals. For the exact numbers, go here.

  • 10. Sportsattitude  |  November 27, 2007 at 11:03 am

    As far as manufacturing in the US goes, it’s toast. I speak from the viewpoint of someone who has spent the last year investigating employment opportunities in manufacturing as my prior two positions in Supply Chain/Purchasing/Materials Management went to Germany and Mexico respectively. The manufacturing companies I have spoken with since my most recent “de-location” appear to either be on their way to China, Mexico or any other address that does not end in U.S. of A. To me, the problems are not unions or taxes…it is managerial stupidity. Unfortunately folks, the comic strip “Dilbert” is alive and well and existing in most American manufacturing plants. People are working overtime, allegedly as hard as they can, wondering why they can’t compete with those making a quarter an hour to produce the same products. Well, on that level alone, you obviously can’t. Yet, there are ways to produce products efficiently and of a much superior quality that can offset larger overhead costs if the “pointy-haired” bosses of these facilities would truly just get out of the way and let those of us who are trained in such ways do their jobs. You hear lots of talk about “lean manufacturing,” “5 S”, “Six Sigma”…these are current jargon CEO’s are throwing around to their shareholders trying to demonstrate their companies truly have tried to make a go of it in the US and embrace “best practice” supply chain techniques. Yet, when you get inside these plants you find upper management has only been giving lip-service to these proven ways to offset our higher worker pay and benefits needs with streamlining production lines, increasing capacities for production and movement of material, etc. These people in the boardrooms will tell you they have been and continue to do all they can to keep America working while they continue to shut down factories, put Americans out of work and maintain their own bloated salaries while simultaneously fooling shareholders into thinking all is well with the products now being made “elsewhere.” We did all we could…we had no other choice in order to stay competitive…keep our lifestyles…and keep your stock price up. It is all a deck of cards about to come crashing down.

  • 11. TRussell  |  November 27, 2007 at 4:47 pm

    Where do I even begin? Lots to digest here.

    At first, I was skeptical of Mitt. I was a little weary that he would be another compromiser on key conservative battle points and allow the left to continue its inching toward Radical Egalitarianism and Radical Individualism (see Bork for specifics). I still hold that skepticism. But I view him as the least likely to do so, not based on anything he has done, but based on what I know of the other candidates.

    Second, lets talk about the democratic position. I think of myself as intellectually honest here. I want what is best for America and am not partial to parties. I am not registered as a democrat or a republican but view myself as a mix between conservatism and libertarianism (the latter as influenced by Californian Zeitgeist). I like organic fruits and vegetables and can appreciate individual attempts to not litter and to recycle. But believe you me, that is as far as it goes. No tenant of the democratic, liberal or sassy progressive platform is anywhere near the level of compassion as can be obtained through conservative measures. Any who says otherwise is either ignorant or lying or both (see Hillary, Obama, Edwards, or Ted for details).

    See my post on Social Security ( for a flavor of what I am talking about.

    To increase the standard of living for everyone, one must embrace economic reality, not philosophical dribbling (see Marx for details). One must see that socialism is a halfway house to communism. Let me repeat, one must see that! When freedoms are traded in for dependency on government (Big Brother), the simple, common man loses. It is never a fair trade. In fact, government programs more often than not benefit the bourgeois and not the proletariat. See our education system problems for evidence on that.

    Pammy, please become converted. Here are some books for your reading:

    Slouching Towards Gummorah by Bork
    The Tempting of America by Bork
    Democracy and Capitalism by Friedman
    Free to Choose by Friedman

    Start there, and then lets have a discussion in earnest about how best to accomplish your noble desires for improved quality of life for your fellow Americans. I love the compassion you have. Please, let IRF help you.

  • 12. lemare  |  November 27, 2007 at 5:30 pm

    T Russell, what? No “Capitalism and Freedom”???

  • 13. TRussell  |  November 27, 2007 at 6:09 pm

    Thanks LeMare – I’m running ragged over here.

  • 14. Lowdogg  |  November 28, 2007 at 3:49 pm

    Like LeMare, the economy is KEY, KEY, KEY for me. I have little concern about Mitt there.
    My other pet issue is security. I want to know they will be aggressive. On this I have to have a little faith in the guy, and I don’t feel myself stretching to do so.


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